Comments on: Domaining Manifesto: The Ultimate Guide to Successful Domaining http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/ Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:08:18 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Ted http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/comment-page-1/#comment-8380 Ted Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:30:26 +0000 http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/#comment-8380 Hi, Domain names are the Virtual Real Estate of today. How is buying a desirable domain name and holding it for appreciation any different than buying a piece of desired real estate and holding on to it for resale at a profit. If the owner of the real estate didn't develop the property - he wanted to sell it undeveloped - no one would call him a real estate squatter- they'd call him a shrewd businessman. Just because someone didn't recognize the value and buy the name for his own purposes is no reason to start calling names. It's a little different when someone is trying to take advantage of a trademarked or corporate name - either through typos, other extensions, etc. I would consider that unethical. But I don't think that is what John is talking about. Have a great New Year. All the best, Ted Sudol Hi,
Domain names are the Virtual Real Estate of today. How is buying a desirable domain name and holding it for appreciation any different than buying a piece of desired real estate and holding on to it for resale at a profit. If the owner of the real estate didn’t develop the property – he wanted to sell it undeveloped – no one would call him a real estate squatter- they’d call him a shrewd businessman. Just because someone didn’t recognize the value and buy the name for his own purposes is no reason to start calling names.
It’s a little different when someone is trying to take advantage of a trademarked or corporate name – either through typos, other extensions, etc. I would consider that unethical. But I don’t think that is what John is talking about.
Have a great New Year.

All the best,
Ted Sudol

]]> By: John Motson http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/comment-page-1/#comment-7261 John Motson Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:23:14 +0000 http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/#comment-7261 Hi Tish, Thanks for putting up a review of my book. I think some of the people misunderstand the concept of my book. Talking about expired domains and grabbing them is only a portion of what I do in the book. For example, I explain how to avoid banned domains and domains with fake ranking - information which can be used by anyone wanting to buy a domain for a website. I explain domain grabbing ( upon expiry ) which again, can be used by a person that wants to start a website. If I were looking for a football domain, for a football website I want to start, I would surely like to grab football.com ahead of anyone else. Imagine putting your site up on that as opposed to something like johnsfootballsite.com. Whether you like it or not, domain power transcends the simplistic view many people promote that domainers are money grabbing scavengers. John Hi Tish,

Thanks for putting up a review of my book.

I think some of the people misunderstand the concept of my book.

Talking about expired domains and grabbing them is only a portion of what I do in the book.

For example, I explain how to avoid banned domains and domains with fake ranking – information which can be used by anyone wanting to buy a domain for a website.

I explain domain grabbing ( upon expiry ) which again, can be used by a person that wants to start a website.

If I were looking for a football domain, for a football website I want to start, I would surely like to grab football.com ahead of anyone else. Imagine putting your site up on that as opposed to something like johnsfootballsite.com.

Whether you like it or not, domain power transcends the simplistic view many people promote that domainers are money grabbing scavengers.

John

]]> By: teeni http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/comment-page-1/#comment-7259 teeni Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:02:40 +0000 http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/#comment-7259 Uh-oh, Tish. Your geek is showing. LOL. Seriously this sounds like a good read. I may have to read this sometime when I try and get serious about maybe making some money. Uh-oh, Tish. Your geek is showing. LOL. Seriously this sounds like a good read. I may have to read this sometime when I try and get serious about maybe making some money.

]]> By: Domain Name Hijacking Makes Money But Is It Ethical? http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/comment-page-1/#comment-7258 Domain Name Hijacking Makes Money But Is It Ethical? Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:56:58 +0000 http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/#comment-7258 [...] people now considering John Motson to be a domain name hijacker? From what I hear, he it the guy that goes around and sniffs out domain names that are about to [...] [...] people now considering John Motson to be a domain name hijacker? From what I hear, he it the guy that goes around and sniffs out domain names that are about to [...]

]]> By: Tish http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/comment-page-1/#comment-7255 Tish Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:25:07 +0000 http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/#comment-7255 I am fascinated by John’s book, as it gives an in depth look at domain names in general – not just at how to profit from them. I have picked up some great information that will prove valuable when dealing with my current three domain names, as well as any new ones I may decide to acquire. At this point in time, I have no plans of entering the domaining business; however, I will gladly support John in his endeavors. Living in a capitalistic society, we are motivated by money. We may not all be motivated to do what John does, but we should understand that he has every right to do it. That’s capitalism, folks! Whether you’re buying at wholesale and selling at retail, scalping concert tickets, or selling lemonade on a street corner, the ultimate goal is to turn a profit. I am happy to live in this land of opportunity, where the rich are separated from the poor merely by ideas and ambition. It’s survival of the fittest, and domainers like John Motson continue to rise to the top of food chain – not because they are preying on those less fortunate, but because they see opportunities and take them. I know that my opinion differs from many of yours, but I hope you’ll understand that it’s nothing personal. I respect anyone who has an opinion to voice and can back it up. I am fascinated by John’s book, as it gives an in depth look at domain names in general – not just at how to profit from them. I have picked up some great information that will prove valuable when dealing with my current three domain names, as well as any new ones I may decide to acquire. At this point in time, I have no plans of entering the domaining business; however, I will gladly support John in his endeavors.

Living in a capitalistic society, we are motivated by money. We may not all be motivated to do what John does, but we should understand that he has every right to do it. That’s capitalism, folks! Whether you’re buying at wholesale and selling at retail, scalping concert tickets, or selling lemonade on a street corner, the ultimate goal is to turn a profit. I am happy to live in this land of opportunity, where the rich are separated from the poor merely by ideas and ambition. It’s survival of the fittest, and domainers like John Motson continue to rise to the top of food chain – not because they are preying on those less fortunate, but because they see opportunities and take them.

I know that my opinion differs from many of yours, but I hope you’ll understand that it’s nothing personal. I respect anyone who has an opinion to voice and can back it up.

]]> By: moooooog35 http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/comment-page-1/#comment-7254 moooooog35 Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:16:21 +0000 http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/#comment-7254 I read that as: "Dominating Manifesto"... "..his secrets of successful dominating.." Man. I'm bummed now that I've read it the RIGHT way. I read that as:

“Dominating Manifesto”…

“..his secrets of successful dominating..”

Man. I’m bummed now that I’ve read it the RIGHT way.

]]> By: Barry http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/comment-page-1/#comment-7253 Barry Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:43:20 +0000 http://chattiekat.com/2007/12/14/domaining-manifesto-the-ultimate-guide-to-successful-domaining/#comment-7253 I'm sorry to say this because he's your friend, but hijacking and sitting on domain names is not much better than buying up tickets to an event at face value and scalping them later at exorbitant mark-ups. I know the recent Hannah Montana concerts made this problem really prominent, as lots of young girls whose parents could've afforded the face value prices had to disappoint their kids because unscrupulous ticket brokers snatched up 100's and 1000's of tickets at a time to resell at 1000%+ markups. As an internet professional who's ran up against this several times with domain name hijacking (a particular domain name I was interested in had been bought by someone who had no need or interest in that particular name, and their price was way out of my range), I consider it shady and rather unethical. I'd be interested in your opinion on it... I’m sorry to say this because he’s your friend, but hijacking and sitting on domain names is not much better than buying up tickets to an event at face value and scalping them later at exorbitant mark-ups. I know the recent Hannah Montana concerts made this problem really prominent, as lots of young girls whose parents could’ve afforded the face value prices had to disappoint their kids because unscrupulous ticket brokers snatched up 100’s and 1000’s of tickets at a time to resell at 1000%+ markups.

As an internet professional who’s ran up against this several times with domain name hijacking (a particular domain name I was interested in had been bought by someone who had no need or interest in that particular name, and their price was way out of my range), I consider it shady and rather unethical. I’d be interested in your opinion on it…

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